All Discrepancies between this and the seed list reflect movement to make the bracket work.
Texas Regional
Little Rock, Arkansas
1 – Memphis (CUSA)
16 - Play-in (UMBC/Alabama St.) (America East/SWAC)
9 – St. Mary’s
8 – Southern Cal
Tampa, Florida
5 – Marquette
12 – Virginia Commonwealth (CAA)
13 - Oral Roberts (Summit)
4 – Ohio St.
Denver, Colorado
3 – Washington St.
14 – Stephen F. Austin (Southland)
11 – Miami (FL)
6 – Xavier (A-10)
Omaha, Nebraska
7 – West Virginia
10 – Florida
15 – American (Patriot)
2 – Kansas (Big XII)
Arizona Regional
Anaheim, California
1 – UCLA (Pac-10)
16 – Austin Peay (OVC)
9 – Purdue
8 – Mississippi
Denver, Colorado
5 – Gonzaga (WCC)
12 – Syracuse
13 – UNC-Asheville (Big South)
4 – Drake (MVC)
Washington DC
3 – Michigan St.
14 – Portland St. (Big Sky)
11 – BYU (MWC)
6 – Notre Dame
Little Rock, Arkansas
7 – Stanford
10 – Arkansas
15 - East Tennessee St. (OVC)
2 – Texas
North Carolina Regional
Raleigh, North Carolina
1 – Duke (ACC)
16 – Wagner (NEC)
9 – Louisville
8 – Mississippi St.
Anaheim, California
5 – Baylor
12 – South Alabama (Sun Belt)
13 – Boise St. (WAC)
4 – Arizona
Washington DC
3 – Indiana
14 – Davidson (SoCon)
11 – Rhode Island
6 – Texas A&M
Birmingham, Alabama
7 – Vanderbilt
10 – California
15 – Cornell (IVY)
2 – Georgetown (Big East)
Detroit Regional
Birmingham, Alabama
1 – Tennessee (SEC)
16 – Morgan St. (MEAC)
9 – Clemson
8 – Pittsburgh
Tampa, Florida
5 – Oklahoma
12 – UNLV
13 – Kent St. (MAC)
4 – Connecticut
Omaha, Nebraska
3 – Wisconsin
14 – Rider (MAAC)
11 – Seton Hall
6 – Butler (Horizon)
Raleigh, North Carolina
7 – Kansas St.
10 – Dayton
15 – Cal State-Fullerton (Big West)
2 – North Carolina
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Xavier a 6 seed? This is the only bracket in which X has been worse than a 4 seed.
In the spirit of fairness, I'll point out that I actually have XU as a 7, and only bumped them to a six to make the bracket work.
Xavier is getting love from bracketologists for one of three reasons: they have a great RPI, a wonderful record against the top 50 RPI, or they are just predicted to run away with the conference.
Right now, Xavier is listed as 5-1 against the RPI top 50. This is misleading for two reasons. First, only one win came against the RPI top 25, the wins that will standout at the end of the year. Second, three of those "Top 50" wins are against Kent St., Massachusetts, and Dayton. While either UMass or Dayton (or perhaps both) will make it in, Kent St. will not. Obviously that should still keep them highly rated. However, they have losses to Arizona St, Temple, and Miami (OH), all of which are bad losses. 3 bad losses is enough to drop you down.
For a second, lets compare Xavier to Notre Dame, who most people agree should be about a 6, 7, or 8. Both teams own wins over K-State. Both teams have one other great win (Indiana and Connecticut, respectively). Both have a couple of mid-level wins (Dayton, UMass for XU, West Virginia, Providence for ND). Both have a loss to a top-tier program, an upper-tier team, and a team floating just short of the bubble (UT, ASU, Temple for XU, G'town, Baylor, Georgia Tech for ND). The final loss for each is widely different, (Miami of Ohio vs. Marquette), with that edge going to ND. Xavier has a better SOS. Are you really trying to tell me that Xavier is two or three seed-lines better than the Irish?
Absolutely Xavier deserves at least two or three seed lines ahead of ND. There's really no comparison. Xavier is ranked 13/14in both polls with an RPI of 14 (SOS 42) while ND's RPI is 45 (SOS 102) with a poll ranking of 22/23. If the brackets were done today there is absolutely no doubt that X would be at least two seed lines ahead of ND.
I honestly don't know how much impact the polls have on the seeding, but my philosophy is that a team should be ranked on performance, while seeding reflects acheivement.
RPI reflects neither, and as Jeff over at Basketball Predictions has said, the committee has begun to move away from using the RPI. The Selection committee has NEVER used pure RPI - only as an organization method (record vs. top 50, record vs. top 100, bad losses vs. 100+).
Sorry I just don't see your logic. Regardless of RPI, which is used to some degree, and the poll rankings which are used for seeding purposes I'm not sure how you can compare X's wins over Dayton and UMASS to Providence???? and W Va. Dayton was ranked 16 at the time and UMASS was getting votes for the top 25. W. Va okay but Providence is a very average team. I'm actually a ND fan but sure don't see how you can have ND ahead of X in your seedings. All that matters at this point is how the teams finish out the season which will have much more bearing on the final seedings. If both X and ND finish strong, which I hope both do, I believe you'll see X with a 3-4 seed and ND with a 7-8 seed.
I noted how RPI is used. The committee will NOT see an individual teams RPI.
Dayton - WVU is a fair comparison, as is UMass-Provy. All four are bubble teams at this point.
If both teams finish strong, then Xavier will be a 3-4, and ND will be a 4-5.
To abut what the other guy said, how did Ohio State "merit" a 4 seed? I hope you realized that Greg Oden, Mike Conley Jr. and Daequan Cook aren't on the roster this season and that their wins from last year don't carry onto this year's resume, which includes these highlights:
- Neutral court win against Syracuse
- Home win versus Florida
The "good losses" argument was extinguished when they lost to Iowa. This is a bubble team at best.
Good stuff. ND at a 6 seed was probably right for last week. I would be interested in seeing where you put them after wins over Seton Hall and Marquette.
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